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Todd Hayen, PhD, RP's avatar

Thank you Janice...this is very important and I am glad you have written this great article with all the great resources and links!

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Thank you for sharing it, Todd!

Much appreciated.

I hope it helps people who are just waking up to this...

mess.

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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol X – Preparing for Power . . . (((SARS-CoV2)))

❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissention, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases. by want, so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-x-preparing-for-power-sars

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Mishelle Shepard's avatar

I started questioning Kennedy when he became involved in Weston A. Price foundation so actively. I felt like I was watching a Infiltration-in-Progress. Sure, on the one hand his name and network bring lots of company and prestige, which folks love and can’t get enough of, obviously. On the other hand, he’s a Red Herring everywhere he goes. And don’t give me this total horseshit that he’s got it so hard cause of his family and oh, what great risks he’s already taking, nonsense! He has loads of options. If he cared that much he could go undercover, change his name or identity, work with those actually changing things, no, instead of just hogging all their screentime and potential audience? What would a truly ethical person do in his position? Ever read the great novel “A Man in Full”? So damn sick of these oligarch families pretending they’re doing everyone some big favor. We used to be far more shrewd about such slime balls in this country. That changed about 150 years ago and we’re about to pay very dearly for that loss of wisdom.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Thank you!

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Mishelle Shepard's avatar

You did say it better and thank you for that! More power to ya, darlin!!

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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

Dr.SHIVA™ LIVE: The “Humanitarian” Warmonger – Booby F’n Kennedy Jr. – The Other Face of Imperialism . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-4Sd-WADg

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KSH's avatar

Uh oh, what dont I know about Weston A Price?

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Janice Phillips's avatar

I think Mishelle means Junior was infiltrating it. I'm not "into" the political stuff, so I'm not sure about that end of anything, but I do know they're excellent health warriors!

And they're not hip about invisible bugs making everyone sick, so there is that.

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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

Dr.SHIVA™ LIVE: The Mythos of the Kennedy "Royalty" Enslaves America . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX5upBRlDqY

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KSH's avatar

Uh oh, what dont I know about Weston A Price?

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Mishelle Shepard's avatar

Ok, so serendipity would have it! Here’s a email I just received from them:

“Texans for Vaccine Choice is excited to announce their Freedom Fight at the Texas Capitol on January 25th!

They are lining up some amazing speakers, including the bold and brave DEL BIGTREE, who will address current medical mandates and give powerful testimonies and encouraging speeches regarding the future of medical liberty in our great state!

https://texansforvaccinechoice.com/event/5th-annual-freedom-fight-at-the-capitol/

Short notice, but please share!”

Sounds good, right? But, the message used to be anti-vaxx, period. Not choice. So, the Overton Window, if you will, has already been moved. The same thing happened with the anti-GMO pushers back in the day. They got a real following, then the message shifted to ‘GMO Labeling’, right? Again, choice. A ‘comprimise’ -- but, is it, really? Or is it moving the framing to better suit the $$ powers and industry?

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Mishelle Shepard's avatar

I don’t have any inside info or anything! I’ve been following them for many years and think they do good work and support them and have gone to a conference. My observation is just that when you get that popular you’re bound to attract powerful opportunists who then slowly shift the goal posts and redefine the institution from within. More consumerism inevitably follows attracting yet more folks who are attracted to that, not the original mission.

So, what I’ve seen is more political pushes and more aligning with famous families with the ‘grassroots’ feel being exploited. Not that some of it is not totally legit and helpful. But, I can’t help but speculate—how much does having a RFK Jr-level name, especially when he is not on-board with major facets of their message—actually taint and obscure their more wholesome intentions? How much of the product and people are no more interested in honest science and health integrity than any other popularized institution?

I just get really turned off by all the health-product and guru pushing and I see them headed in that direction, no thanks to all their recent spokesmen.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

I've noticed it too. It happens to almost every single "against the grain" movement, it seems. As soon as you get big enough, you attract a big name, with big money and the next thing you know, your stance done fell to it's knees as is taking it up the ass.

Dry.

It's why I don't support much of anything anymore...except my family and myself.

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KSH's avatar

Do you include Del Bigtree in that group?

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Del knows about the virus hoax, yet I doubt he talks about it. I quit watching his show months ago. I can't stand all the variant this and lab leak that.

Not sure what "group" you mean, though. Has he been bought?

I am sure he doesn't THINK he has, but get big enough and they all end up whores for someone.

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Emmanuel's avatar

Del Bigtree is just making lame excuse, like RFK junior..

"In a recent interview, Del Bigtree suggested that the world is not ready for the "no virus" conversation.

We take a different view, which is why the "Settling The Virus Debate" Statement was launched.

Dr Sam and Mark Bailey are joined by Dr Tom Cowan and Dr Andy Kaufman to analyse Bigtree's strategy. We discuss why we believe the COVID-19 situation should be used to unravel not only the virus model, but the fraud of germ theory as well. "

https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Viruses-Baileys-Cowan-Kaufman-Respond-To-Del-Bigtree:b

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Yep! I saw that one. I just shook my head.

How people can daily operate in a paradigm that they know is a lie...

Well, it truly is beyond me!

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Mishelle Shepard's avatar

If you mean in the RFK-style of opportunism, then yes. I guess I try to get it down to basics. Is this person playing the role of an ‘edgy-truth-teller’ or a hero/savior of the common man? Yes. Then, the way I see it, play the role well. That means, don’t bow to the powers, don’t hedge your bets, get where the margins really are and stop playing to the middle. And, be fearless. That’s what real heroes do. Is Del Bigtree doing that? I don’t think so.

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KSH's avatar

I agree with you. I used to watch his show, he's lost my attention though.

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J.P.'s avatar

As I remarked in my recent article on this topic, it is important for us to distinguish in our conversations with The True Believers the difference between 'virus' the particle and 'virus' the contagious mythology.

https://fullbroadside.substack.com/p/virologys-fatal-flaw

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Clarence Wilhelm Spangle's avatar

PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION . . . Protocol X – Preparing for Power . . . (((SARS-CoV2)))

❝. . . utterly exhaust humanity with dissention, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases. by want, so that the “Goyim” see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else.❞

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/protocol-x-preparing-for-power-sars

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Paul's avatar

Jan,

If they 2 have further discussions, whataya think about this:

THE CCR DISCUSSIONS:

Coppolino-Couey Renderings.

[italics]

Prism-Ed To Educate & Captivate con Reflectives.

con = with or thoroughly

(just a thought)

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Paul's avatar

Dear Janice,

This is just my opinion on Dr. Jay.

Note: Eric's Inter-View is the 1st I ever heard Dr. Jay speak.

So my opinion is singularly-based, on EFC's Discussion/Debate.

As I listened both closely initially, then multiple times during the weekend, I thought that an intense, "internal-dialogue" was going-on, between-the-two, such that, Dr. Jay was uncovering, but not explicitly saying, certain things, which (I imagine) both he/Eric, agree upon.

I think Dr. Jay, is in a very difficult place professionally, & he, in-a-sense, cannot, or presently (due to family concerns) won't say, for protective purposes, familial, logistical, & financial (he needs to support his family).

I think Eric knew this, on some level, & allowed him to speak.

I THOUGHT THE INTER-VIEW WAS GREAT !

IT SHOULD BE SHOWN TO ALL UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS MAJORS, ON JUST HOW, TO CONDUCT AN INTERVIEW.

That's my opinion.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

I have to mostly agree, Paul.

Very astute observations and I came to those conclusions myself. I would have been nicer to the man (in my comments here and on Bitchute) if he'd have showed just a little less arrogance. If you know you're playing defense, and are doing so from a weak position, why expose both flanks AND your rear?

Talk about ass in the wind!

I didn't realize HOW exposed he'd made himself until I read the emails. Instead of assessing the field and marshaling his thoroughly exhausted troops, he charged up the hill on his own self. And from what I read, no one was smacking his horse but him.

If the support of his family was his primary concern, Ms Massey gave him several outs. For one, he could have just shut his trap and ignored her like all the rest of them do. But nope. Off he went, daring all to plump up his own ego.

If any "harm" comes his way, it's due to his own actions.

And the disagreement is I don't think I could sit through another three hours of his bush beating.

HAHAHAAAAAA.

Drove me nuckin futs it did.

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Paul's avatar

Janice,

As I said, I have not looked at his previous statements or audios.

I imagine this, & I am sure i am incorrect, but since you are both smart & open, I'll offer this now, then I'll read/listen to any/all that you offered with Dr. Jay.

(It may take me awhile, as a little busy & listening to Godfather's Morning Audio).

I wonder if Dr. Jay knows stuff, from an insider's POV. What he's seen, disturbs him, & he feels caught. & Maybe he gets defensive or whatever. I am not sure, but I just have a slight hunch he's conflicted.

On Eric's discussion, I will assume Dr. Jay believes:

1. There are viruses, that may cause disease.

2. He believes "viruses don't exist theory" doesn't serve those who question health etiologies.

(Eric doesn't seem to fall in line with the above 2, but did it professionally & gently).

Buuttt, much of what the 2 discussed, during the 3 hours, they "seemed" (to me) to be in "general" agreement.

So, I'm interested in what they agree on. To draw those things out & cement them, in functioning reality.

Then, go at it, on those they do not.

That's the best way I can explain it.

& I will watch/read what you offered.

I think this "covid thing" is large, deep, connected, etc. And those swimming near it, are affected by it.

I'll get back to you, after I read/watch. Maybe i'm naive.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

You're right about one thing!

There be sharks in those there waters!

Do you need the links to the Jay emails or the interviews or anything?

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Paul's avatar

I agree about there thar waters ! HAHA !

Yes any links would be helpful.

But no rush.

Thanx again !

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Let's see.

Here is the emails that started the whole thing :::

https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/RFK-Jr-Holland-Dec-2022-PACKAGE-redacted.pdf

Here is what Jay said, live on his stream about those emails :::

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1683585529

(I couldn't watch that whole thing)

And here's some of my fav peeps that Jay was discussing, responding to him in panel format (with clips from the above stream) when he wouldn't come on the show and talk like an adult ::: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZAez87Cu

Hope that helps!

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Paul's avatar

WOW !

THAT'S A BUNCH !

Thank You.

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I sent a small note a few minutes ago on that left-pointing arrow thing. But it came back saying it didn't reach its destination.

So, do you get GodFather's substack ?

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Defender of Freedom's avatar

Hello Janice, Thank you for posting this Terrain Theory stuff, but if both things are still 'theories' how does one prove one over the other? How do we know there isn't a third 'theory' out there or more? It sure does seem like when one of us gets sick, many of us in my family also get sick with the same thing. How do you disprove that? Forget it's a 'virus' even, what does it mean that we all get sick if one of us does? Is it just heavy metals in the air? GMO food? Micro Plastics in everything? And if it is, why aren't we always sick? I guess with chronic inflammation, maybe we are? Could that inflammation be the cause of every thing? I've been researching this stuff for years,.....and finally have some things that work for me,.....but no guarantees! Even though I do the best I can to eat real food, home eggs, and many other thing, I still get sick sometimes. And why are so many always sick? I have friends who are totally compromised! They have everything in the book,....it's sad.

So many question need to be answered, before one theory can become fact.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Thanks for asking!

And I suppose that is the million dollar question, isn't it? Too bad we've wasted so much on the "Germ Theory" which actually has been disproven over, and over and over. Even the original experiments such as the Tobacco Mosaic Virus and Enders with Measles do not show a so-called viral cause of disease. (Resources can be found at Sam Bailey's website and through Mark Bailey's paper's references). Not once has "science" been able to make a healthy human/plant/animal sick from normal routes of transmission from a sick organism. It just hasn't happened, yet they still insist it can! It's lunacy, if you ask me.

That said, what DOES make us sick and WHY does it seem some illnesses are contagious? There are hypothesis out there that are aimed at finding out, but as you likely know, there's no government funding, no grants and the few doctors and scientists who are doing this thankless task are usually demonized, ostracized, fined, and have their license to practice yanked and some are even murdered. They're labelled quacks and even dangerous to public health.

So, finding the truth isn't going to be easy. Or at least, it hasn't been. We can change that soon, I hope.

Some of the ideas I've come across that sound right to me are that most illnesses can be caused by three things. 1. Malnutrition, as in the case of scurvy and pellagra. 2. Physical or even emotional trauma (German New Medicine). 3. Exposure to toxins, whether environmental or the toxic waste from bacteria. A good example is it's not the 3 day old potato salad, left in the sun that makes you puke, but the bacteria that showed up to eat the potato salad.

That said, why do illnesses seem to come in waves and be contagious? I think most common colds and flus are our body's natural detoxification process. When we get around someone who's going through this process, we seem to pick up some unknown signal, be it frequency or pheromones, or something as yet unknown, and our bodies decide to do it too. Especially if we've been in close enough contact over the previous months that we've been eating, drinking and breathing similar stuff, meaning we've been ingesting and breathing in the same toxins and our cells decide to have a cleaning party.

As I wrote in my Cancer article, I believe cancer is a manifestation of this process breaking down, becoming overwhelmed and just not working right anymore. We've learned recently that fevers are a GOOD thing. They help the cells get rid of the nasty stuff, just like a runny nose after a sneeze helps clear out irritants.

I'd love to see research begin to happen to find out the true cause of what seems to be "contagion". I think it would be the biggest breakthrough in science since the dawn of science.

But, I'm also not very hopeful it will happen in my lifetime. There's just too much money and control riding on viruses and cancer and and Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Medicine have very powerful friends.

I hoped this helped.

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Soul Liberation's avatar

There is a source of illness that is not known yet, and it's the subconscious mind. The subconscious is an invisible program that is located around a person, and it contains millions of smaller programs, of diseases among other things. If we all get sick at the same time, or if we get sick after contact with other people, then this is because this is programmed in the subconscious. I know about the subconscious around a person, because I can perceive it, and other people can learn to perceive it too. I have written a book about this view, you can read it on https://soulliberation.eu/. https://soulliberation.substack.com/.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Thank YOU!

I will definitely be taking the time to read your book...after I finish my current stack. HA.

So much to learn and so little time! I came across Eileen Mucusak years ago on the Electric Universe's conference uploads and even bought some books on Reiki and healing with energy. Such a fascinating and up until now, under utilized phenomenon.

And serendipity had me watching this video upon waking this morning...

Tell me what you think. I wonder if this can have something to do with "knowing" about the subconscious? We're all electricity and water, after all.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nwqBP0FIMgBY/

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Soul Liberation's avatar

What I am writing about is very different from energy healing, it's something that you have not heard of before. It's something completely new.

I still have to revise my book, and then I will add the supplementary knowledge I have now, as a result of learning about the new theory concerning viruses, and as a result of screening the subconscious mind of people, that it's programmed in the subconscious that people get the flu etc. The symptoms are programmed too. In the version of my book that is on my website, I still mention microorganisms as a cause of disease, but that was before I started looking into the new theory about viruses etc.

But apart from that, there is already a lot of information about what is the cause of disease. Diseases, and the processes that occur in the body in order to cause a disease, find their origin in subconscious programmes that are present around a person in the form of a subtle matter. For example, I have recently discoverd that I have a programme that will cause Multiple Sclerosis in myself. I know this because I have had some symptoms. I have looked for a subconscious programme that caused it and I have removed the programme, so I will not get MS anymore. This programme was present around me in the form of a subtle matter. The subtle matter is destroyed with the technique that I apply, so the disease is removed for ever from the subconscious.

But my book is mostly about the nature of man and life, and diseases are only a small part of it.

The nature of man and life are controlled by the subconscious mind, which is an evil programme that is located around a person and that is the cause of the problems that we have and of the misery in the world.

In order to perceive the subconscious, one needs psychic abilities, which is a handicap, because most people do not have psychic abilities. Psychic abilities can be acquired, but there is usually a long way to go in order to achieve this. But not always.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

Highly interesting stuff, indeed!

I've recently read Journey of Souls by Newton and Destiny of Souls is in the aforementioned stack. There are "hints" of just your concept/experience in that book. There's also some of your ideas that resonate with German New Medicine and also Reiki and Biofield Tuning.

I love taking all kinds of different concepts and information into my brain and seeing what stays and what goes, what meshes and what doesn't "fit".

I need to re-read Jung's Phycology of the Unconscious and his Red Book! He talks a lot about the Shadow and I'd love to go back and see how that now works with my new "disease" ideas.

When I read your book, I shall do the same! Maybe someday, I'll find "it". The truth of the matter. Our matter and why we matter...lol

Thanks!

ps. Oh! And one thing I have learned for certain! There's nothing new under the Sun. ;-) I wouldn't be at all surprised to read some dusty tome someday in which you find your very ideas!

Just a word to the wise. hahaha

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Paul's avatar

Dearest Janice,

Where do I even begin with this ripe & overwhelming Cornucopia !

Well... I'll just have to dig in !

I really loved Your Write Up too !

*

"What [a-]douche bag of epic proportions!"

Unfortuneately, THAT IS Epic !

& NOT ERIC !

**

Being familiar with Long-Time Jon "JR" Silver & Pirate Treasure Gold,

& Now EFC,

I SO AGREE !!

***

Thanx Dear.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

As always, your comments are the real Gold!

Are you a leprechaun? lol

Setting in the sunshine with a smile thanks to you!

:-)

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Paul's avatar

Dear Jan,

I wasn't correcting you.

I just added some

Joisy-twang.

[a-]douchebag.

HAHAHAHA !

Believe it or not,

Best of friends

Routinely refer

To each other

As such.

E.g.

You & your friends are hanging out together, then another friend shows up, & everyone screams..."Hey ! Getta load of this douchebag !"

And we mean it.

AND EVERYONE LAUGHS

INCLUDING ALL DOUCHEBAGS PRESENT & ACCOUNTED FOR.

THAT'S EVERYONE !!!

HAHAHAHA !

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Janice Phillips's avatar

LOL! I gotcha darlin'.

You sure keep me laughing!

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sampa's avatar

I agree 100% that we should question everything. On the other hand, don’t blindly accept an alternative view. The Bailey crowd are rather clueless, they use sophistry and straw man science. At least hear out a fellow dissident that also has some knowledge on virology. There are plenty colourful ones around.

As for myself, I find viruses rather fascinating. Check out some of the scanning electron microscope images of viruses. Also some of the latest technologies being used. And remember, science, similar to critical thinking shrews, use convergent lines of evidence to come to the most likely conclusion.

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Janice Phillips's avatar

I don't feel doing 18 months of research is "blindly accepting" much of anything. While I've been anti-vaccine since I got preggers in 1999, I still thought viruses were "real" (as in protein encapsulated, replication competent, genetic material) and could be transmitted from host to host. I still vaccinated my animals. But, after the plandemic hit, I saw the words "in silico" and went What The Fuck Are They Doing?

I started looking and read Kary Mullis, Peter Duesberg, Eustice Mullins, and looked into the work of Harold Hillman. I looked at the Perth's Group work and read more scientific papers and articles than I can recall. I found the Weston A. Price group and followed their resources.

And just like Eric, I had already come to the conclusion that there was some seriously hokey bullshit going on in the field of virology BEFORE I found "the Bailey crowd".

Now, finding the doctor's and people listed in my article made me SO HAPPY! I had spent a good 10 or 12 months thinking I had just gone mad. Finding other's who'd independently looked at the problem and had come to the same conclusion I had was very refreshing to my state of mind.

I don't think I've ever once heard them use sophistry or straw men for anything, much less science.

And I am my own dissident. Always have been and I don't "follow" anyone...EVER. I lead.

But, thanks for your comment.

And have fun fascinating yourself. And look up Hillman's critiques of electron microscopy while you're at it. Oh! And just found a great presentation from Dr. Andy.

He really covers the whole gamut.

*no strawmen were harmed in the making of this video* ;-)

https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/transcending-the-plandemic-narrative-with-dr-andrew-kaufman/

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